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  Looks like ABC New York got the okay.

  by truthseekeriam in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://appellatecases.courtinfo.ca.gov/search/case/dockets.cfm?dist=1&doc_id=2025979&doc_no=a136641.

  12/19/2014order filed.

  upon due consideration, the media request of applicant abc news to make a video recording of oral argument in the above-referenced appeal is granted.

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  cha ching

  Hmm? They forbid us to watch the NBC Dateline show 5/28/02

  www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywY4mKoubws
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  Friend Told Me To "Get Over My Doubts & Keep Going Like Everything Is OK!!

  by NoMoreHustle in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  had a coversation with a very close friend (of 15 years) and understands how i feel about the wt org.

  he himself is a serious doubter.

  i on the other hand am not a doubter, i know with every living ounce of myself that this is a cult!

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  cha ching

  That's right, LongHairGal!

  They do not want you to have fun, have memories, or build relationships with family that will take you in when you wake up!

  I am trying to put my life back together with family, realizing that they have made their own "family" of friends that have shown love to them and become 'family' when I wasn't there.

  And yep, Pete, it's the old Red Pill/ Blue Pill choice.... If you just keep taking the Blu Pill you can keep having that comfy life, living in paradise, even tho it's not true.. it's just a fantasy.

  Thanks Phizzy for boiling it down, making it obvious: The WT uses the word "doubt" to make you feel bad, when really we don't 'doubt', we know the truth about the truth.... it is a lie.
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  Kingdom chorus

  by looter in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so im at the meeting after its over and this elder says to me that god needs my voice because he, the elder, feels that my singing is not loud enough.

  i did not tell him this, but singing just is not my thing.

  he then went on saying how gods people are better singers than "the worlds singers".

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  cha ching

  Sorry & hugs to you.... elders can make such big deals about EVERYthing but what is really important.

  Will you ever hear them getting mad about the pedophile not being reported? NO...

  not singing loud enough? yes.... That way they can feel very important... 'sticking up for Jehovah'

  They don't need to stick up for the kids though, do they?

  CRAZY!
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  How can I ever leave this cult?

  by Julia Orwell in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've been out nearly two years but it's not out of me.

  i am on school holidays now til february so i thought without work to worry about i can come off my medication.

  i phased it slowly, starting in early november to avoid the physical side effects of coming down.

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  cha ching

  Hey Julia, You are a sweet, caring person, from what I have learned of you on this forum.

  When 'we' leave the cult, we can not let it take our self worth, our ANY thing from us.

  I think that, because they shun us, or try to make us feel left out or 'bad', BECAUSE we are actually good, loving, honest people, we want to 'fix it', 'clarify it', have 'justice,' explain it or help them..... To say that that is disturbing is A.O.K, because it is reality.... and reality is good.

  Maybe it's like the Borg on Star Trek.. the people that have been made into robot like creatures... they cannot feel, they cannot think, they cannot realize the situation they are in, they USE to be human....

  and then, there is the one... the one borg that has a slight chance... that listens and changes (they had one on Star Trek) and understands, and gets human feelings back.

  Coming to grips with this is hard... the people I use to laugh and share things with have reverted back to their borg-like personalities... I ask myself this: "Just because I left the borg, am I less human? No, I am more human. I am going to try to find some small special thing to enjoy at different times throughout my day... the fire I am sitting beside, my cat on my lap, my husband & I being able to be realllly together.

  I like to think of the many people here on this forum who really do understand what it is like, and offer their support.

  ((hugs)) to you! cha ching
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  Leave it in Jehovah's Hands - Your thoughts?

  by berrygerry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  leave it in jehovah's hands.

  is there a more disgusting phrase in jw land?.

  the abuse, harms, thefts, suicides, family destruction - leave it in jehovah's hands.. why would anyone with a more than 2 neurons say, "oh that makes sense," we do not need to change or intervene in any way.. sooner or later, god will take of things.. .

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  HaHa, thanks LisaRose, you put a smile on my face in the midst of all of this "leave it in Jehovah's hands" stuff...

  The simplest illustration is the hardest to refute.
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  The Watchtower Writers Blame the Rank-and-File For Failed Prophecy, Why so Evil the Writers/

  by SanLuisObispoTruthSeeker in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  who is to blame jehovahs witnesses and the bible students believing the end was coming in 1914?

  ive been reading lots of older magazines and they are so different from todays watchtower!

  the current writers from the organization blame everyone except themselves for failed expectations, failed prophecy, "financial ruin and dependance on the goverment "old age social security and medicaid" on their rank-and-file members.

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  cha ching

  "hole, what hole?" "Harold Camping admitted his mistake, he must not be a false prophet"

  Just hearing others simplify this 'crap' makes life a little more sane.

  thx!
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  No longer to use "house to house record" slips and "please follow up slips"!

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a letter has just been read out indicating that effective immediately, witnesses are no longer to use the s-8 slip known as the "house to house" record slip, as well as the s-43 "please follow up" slip (usually used for foreign language people).. the letter stated that this is because of the changes in privacy laws etc that are becoming common in the world today.. i will try and get a copy of the full letter and post it asap.. .

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  cha ching

  This couldbe just to save money... No paper, no ink, no time spent printing...

  More money that could be used in the "worldwide defense suits" re: pedophiles.
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  Thanks Mom and Dad - oh, and thanks Mother

  by berrygerry in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  http://www.canlii.org/en/bc/bcsc/doc/2013/2013bcsc2099/2013bcsc2099.html?searchurlhash=aaaaaqahamvob3zhaaaaaaab.

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  cha ching

  I can't even stand to read this, it makes me so mad inside. I don't need the details, I know the Borg...

  They have plotted and planned and raised lawyers and know the law, and are evil.
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  New Light - How would you feel reading this as a JW?

  by Ginx in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  "scripture can be likened to a lamp which illuminates the truth.

  it's mission is to shed the light of truth.

  when a brighter light appears, the mission of the old one fades.

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  cha ching

  It is amazing how many religions/ cults say the same thing as the WT.

  They are not unique, but they make you feel like you are.... just like all those other religions do...
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  From 1 to 10, how do you rate the value of the Internet in your awakening?

  by Hidden-Window in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  as we all know, the internet is a real game-changer in allowing us to know the truth about the watch tower and its history.

  i always had doubts and it was the internet that presented me with the ever-growing number of individuals who were going through a similar struggle.. i give the internet a 9 in my awakening.

  what about you?.

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  cha ching

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  Altho we sliced and diced the Nov 2011 WT about 607 apart using the WT quotes themselves, we used the internet too look up the references they gave. Then we used the internet to look up court cases, read depositions, letters to bodies of elders, etc.

  We used the internet to confirm what we had come to conclusions to already... Coming here, to this site, we could not believe that 607 had been discussed / discovered/ disproven for so many years! Thanks to all who put in so much hard work!